Särskilt den här insändaren apropå en artikel var lite kul - har tänkt på citatet i fråga (ur Thomasevangeliet) ibland... :-)
IN HIS July 23 letter, referring to the Roman Catholic hierarchy's negative responses to women who are being ordained, Paul M. Paré wonders whether it would "be easier to simply declare the participants not women." Interestingly, Jesus himself has already proposed such a sex change.
Den här undersökningen av brittiska katolikers tro var ganska intressant, och stundtals förvånande, inte minst synen på reinkarnation.
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Här en annan artikel jag fick tips om - en undersökning om katoliker och preventivmedel, apropå jubiléet av Humanae Vitae (har inte hunnit läsa artikeln än).
Apropå exkommunicering och vilka det drabbar - och inte.
Läs utdraget nedan och sen gärna hela artikeln - den innehåller mycket som är riktigt bra.
"We are, in other words, dangerously close to being more punitive of women who raise theological questions about women's role in the church than we are of any other facet of moral confusion or contention in society. And the situation is not a new one. In the 1600s, the church excommunicated Mary Ward for wanting to start a religious order of non-cloistered women. In our own era, in Indiana, they excommunicated M. Theodore Guerin, foundress of the Sisters of Providence, for starting new schools without the bishop's permission. She was canonized in 2006. In 1871, they excommunicated Mary MacKillop in Australia for trying to do the same and then beatified her in 1995. Church officials excommunicated Joan of Arc -- and burned her at the stake -- because she wouldn't agree to obey the church voices around her over the voice of God she heard in her heart. But they don't excommunicate pedophile priests who prey on children or military dictators who use genocide or ethnic cleansing as a political tool against others and massacre against their own. No, we just excommunicate those who question the practices of the church itself.
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But the issue, not the system, is the issue. Instead of a difference of opinion about the role of women in religion, a subject that is at this moment of history a topic in every tradition, every religion, every part of the globe, we now have a full-blown ecclesiastical shoot-out. An "excommunication. " A casting out even of those who do not break the canon laws on the subject but who do broach the forbidden discussion. What should be seen as part of the spiritual discipline of living in hope and faith and openness to the Holy Spirit in "the-already- but-not-yet" is labeled instead as infidelity.
Finding ourselves in a time of social turmoil when all the answers of the past are being brought into question has become for many a Galileo moment. Non-thinking, euphemistically called "obedience" in such situations, has become more important than the search for light in darkness."
Läste en intressant bloggartikel som lyfter upp ett brett spektra av frågor apropå jubiléet av Mulieris Dignitatem i år. Nån som märkt något direkt av "firandet" förresten?
Hoppas det märks mer när SvK drar igång sitt ganska så olikartade kvinnofirande i höst....
Anglikanska kyrkan firar just nu för fullt. Delvis.
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"This year the Catholic Church is celebrating the 20th anniversary of Pope John Paul II’s Apostolic Letter Mulieris Dignitatem (The Dignity of Women). In it the Pontiff refers to “the genius of women” and so, two decades later, several seminars in different parts of the Roman Catholic Church are studying how (whether?) “this genius” is being celebrated.
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While the Catholic Church is studying the steps it took in the last twenty years, the Anglican Church decided to take a veritable plunge. Those in favour are calling it a leap forward. Several women groups – and not just women groups - are lauding this decision for it recognises the dignity and equality of women. In a certain sense the decision is the logical consequence of another controversial one taken by the Anglican community ten years ago: the ordination of women priests.
Those against call it a fall into the chasm. The vote came in spite of the fact that more than a thousand clergymen threatened to leave the Church of England unless sufficient safeguards were put in place for those who objected to women bishops. One has got to see now whether the compromise reached will accommodate the dissenters and manage to keep them within the fold. The compromise will take the form of a "national code of practice," which could include suggesting a woman bishop delegate her duty of care towards objectors to a "complementary bishop" who would be male.
Final legislation that would lead to the ordination of a woman bishop within the Anglican congregation is considered to be about two or three years away from completion.
Four hundred and eighty clergymen had left the Church of England, mostly for the Roman Catholic Church, when women were allowed to be ordained. Seventy subsequently returned."
Funderar över fenomenet svenskkyrkliga prästvigda kvinnor som vill konvertera till katolska kyrkan eftersom de känner sig allt mer utträngda i marginalerna om de inte hänger med i alla snabba vindkappvändningar.
De önskar visst få en särbehandling om de konverterar - få något slags ny speciell tjänst i katolska kyrkan, åka på en särskild gräddfil.
Intressant - man kan undra vad de vill göra?
Duger det inte för dem att koka kaffe, städa toaletter och undervisa småbarn i elementär katekes?
Det är ju det som katolska kvinnor i övrigt anses vara kapabla till. Om de inte har doktorerat i teologi förstås. Då kan de få föreläsa i församlingen nån enstaka gång. Inte predika förstås. Bara föreläsa. De kan förstås få bli nunnor också.... Eller arbeta med administration och ekonomi.
Tänk så bra katolska kvinnor har det! Tjoho!!!!
Inte vill väl svenskkyrkliga präster ha det annorlunda än så?
Och ifall de vill det så tycker jag inte att de ska be om att få särskilda tjänster på en gång om de konverterar - utan acceptera att ödmjuka sig, gå ända ner till botten, och se hur andra katolska kvinnor har det.
Sen - efter ett antal års volontärarbete underst i pyramiden så kanske de också har fått en lite djupare förståelse för situationen och vill vara med och verka för förändring? För ALLA.
För att kvinnors kompetens och kallelse generellt sett ska tas bättre till vara i Kyrkan....
